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Post by Violator on Feb 10, 2015 16:00:08 GMT -5
Allllllrrriightttt.... I've gotta stop this crap because I feel like it is starting to become a trend in AH which is throwing the perception of people who only fly one plane as being "the best" in that plane just because it is all they fly.
Great example. Lilmak.
I'm not saying the guy is bad by any means but just because that is the only plane he flies, I don't consider him the "best" pilot in that plane. He isn't that big of a threat to me in the skies nor a quick ragging annoying picker like messiah is. I don't understand why people think just because a person only flies one plane that they have to be best in that plane, most aren't because they aren't that skilled to begin with. I feel like many players on our squad could fly the plane just as good or even better even though we don't fly it all the time. It just aggraveates me they get the "best in that plane" award just by only flying that one specific plane and being known for it. Being known for it is one thing, but being claimed the best just because you fly it a lot is another whole ballpark.
And why the fuck are players like Muzzy and Randy1 trying to teach people how to fly in the training forums. They've been flying for like a year and know nothing about the planes in this game yet. It irritates me they try to tell people what to do when they themselves still need all the help they can get..
Rant over.
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Post by Triton28 on Feb 10, 2015 16:19:53 GMT -5
I think the belief is that someone who only flies one type of plane has probably had the opportunity to put that plane in just about every circumstance imaginable, and therefore might have more depth of experience than someone who flies everything. That's the way I see it anyway. I've never really equated singularity with skill, but I do equate it with knowing what the hell they're talking about. Well, hopefully.  |
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Post by gman on Feb 10, 2015 16:24:50 GMT -5
Agree 100%. I can get behind a guy like VuduVince, who is a whining biznatch when you kill him, but besides that, making newbie videos on how to/the basics is great. Where guys like him fall on their face is when they get delusions of grandeur and start "teaching" acm. So many have done it. Many guys that I nearly always kill in fights, and I would never, EVER consider making a video about shit in this game, except maybe how to argue without getting a PNG on the forum. Yet because one tour they got a 3 k/d ratio and a 8 percent on accuracy, they start parroting what other, far better pilots, are teaching or have said, when they can't really execute it themselves yet. There are many video instructors in AH over the years that are guilty of this IMO.
I also agree that many guys who fly only a single plane their entire AH career often get labelled as virtuosos in them, when really they still can't fight them up to the level of a truly gifted pilot who can fight in anything can. There are exceptions obviously, Shane in the LA7 could back his shit up, AckAck in the P38, Delrium too obviously, and the Twintailboom boys in the P38 as well probably. Ink in his god damned Ki84. But I certainly can think of more faux-experts in various types than I can of true masters of flying a single type.
I have seen all the above I listed kick ass in other planes, maybe not equally to their best chosen plane, but certainly better than a "LilMak". Put any of the above in the P47, my money would be on them in any fight. And that's the point of the OP, this assumption that this isn't the case, at least how I'm seeing it.
BTW, nice work on your tour last month Violator, that was very well executed and handled over at FlameWarriors. A fine accomplishment backing it up.
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Post by joach1m on Feb 10, 2015 17:27:35 GMT -5
This is why I don't even bother trying to give people advice on ACM on the bbs...I just look away and laugh at some of the shit people tell others to do. Some of the trainers even make me cringe with how they explain some things... :/
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Post by Violator on Feb 10, 2015 20:40:26 GMT -5
Well maybe I sounded a bit harsh. And I don't dislike these people, I think their enthusiasm is great. But people are going to start getting the wrong idea on these types of training forums. I agree joach1m I have no friggen clue what half those dudes are talking about.
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Post by gman on Feb 10, 2015 22:29:52 GMT -5
I think that's a good point, the 'talking' instead of actually flying. I know from teaching many people various shooting techniques, that I can tell them about it, describe it with demonstrations in a classroom setting, and put up diagrams till I turn fucking blue - none of that does even 5 percent of what actually showing and demonstrating it out on the range does, and having students actually functionally try the new skill out themselves, then correct and adjust them as necessary. Adult learning is a very interesting subject, but the majority of us are at our worst when just trying to learn things from a book, especially physical actions. Think of learning to throw a curve ball. I can read about it, go out and screw around myself trying to do it, and most likely will suck balls at it for a long time, my improvement graphed out being a very, very flat line. Get a major league pitching coach to teach me how to do it at a field, and most likely in an hour or two I'll be getting the basics down, and in a day or two, not be too shabby at it. It must be the same for air combat techniques, video games or otherwise.
I think when the new version comes out there will be a lot more players, and hopefully there will be lots of guys like many of the experts here and in a few other squads that will be able to jump into the DA or whatever the fuck it'll be called in the new version, and show the new players interested in ACM how to do it in person. I would bet anything that 15 minutes with some of you guys would teach more than hours of reading and typing about it on the forum will ever do.
Pew pew pew.
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